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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Ken Russels Treasure Island
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on March 04, 2019, 10:11:39 PM »
Realism and anachronisms

While Ken's biographical and historical films, such as . . .
Prisoner of Honor -- Gothic -- Valentino -- Lisztomania -- Mahler -- Savage Messiah -- The Devils -- and The Music Lover . . .
have their moments of reality, and . . .

The Boyfriend
. . .which is somewhat exaggerated, is still a fairly realistic look at what goes on on stage and behind the scenes, and while . . .

Lair of the White Worm
. . . is even more exaggerated, there are moments of reality in it. Unlike . . .

Ken Russell's Treasure Island
. . . which is filled with anachronisms. If we date the story in the film from 1765, which the film does.

Anachronisms
cola -- dynamite -- a rifle that fires multiple times without reloading -- slot machines -- stethoscopes -- t-shirts
. . . are all products of the 19th century. And while the . . .
whistle
. . . dates back to the time of the Ancient Greeks, the metal one in the film, again dates back to the 19th century.

Not anachronisms
There are something things seen in the film that may seem like an anachronism, but may not be,  such as . . .
bingo, 16th century Italy -- the cuckoo clock, 18th century Germany --
and while the use of tobacco in Europe dates to the 16th century, the cigar in Europe dates to the middle of the 18th century, so it may or may not be an anachronism.

Next time: typical and atypical Ken
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Beckett, Bond, Pinter discussion / Re: Beckett's Footfalls and Play in London
« Last post by Iain Fisher on February 27, 2019, 10:11:24 PM »
I just saw this, it is highly recommended.  A faithful production of both plays end-to-end, Play bringing out Beckett's humour and Footfalls bringing out the sadness of the woman.  Really good direction, good sets (the three vases, the hallway), nice dark lighting and very good acting.
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Ken Russels Treasure Island
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on February 26, 2019, 05:02:32 PM »
Introduction

Robert Louis Stevenson's "Treasure Island," which I hold is one of the greatest sea stories ever written, and one of the few books I can read over and over again.

And one of the most filmed books ever written. With . . .
Wallace Beery as Long John Silver. Seen
Robert Newton as Long John Silver. Seen
Orson Welles as Long John Silver. Seen
Charlton Heston as Long John Silver. Unseen
Jack Palance as Long John Silver. Seen

The last is a version I dislike, because it turned Long John Silver from the villain in the story to the hero of the story.

And then there are the variations of the story.
the western Scalawag with Kirk Douglas as the Long John Silver type of character
the animated Treasure Planet with Brian Murray voicing the Long John Silver type of character
and Muppets Treasure Island with Tim Curry as Long John Silver. More on this later.

Next time: realism and anachronisms
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Steven Berkoff discussion / Harvey: Berkoff 's work in progress
« Last post by Iain Fisher on February 18, 2019, 11:59:59 PM »
Berkoff writes, directs and performed Harvey, his new play being performed as a work in progress.  It is on at the Playground Theatre, London from 12-19 Feb 2019.
Berkoff plays Harvey Weinstein reflecting on the situation he is in.  The production is highly recommended.



Details are here
http://www.iainfisher.com/berkoff/berkoff-news.html
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: The Secret Life of Arnold Bax
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on February 16, 2019, 08:33:15 PM »
Sound
--I finally found a PAC, where the sound worked, so I could listen to this, while I watched it. I don't know whether this increased my appreciation or not. As an artist, I have found Ken more of a visual artist, then a verbal artist, exept, in films like Lair of the White Worm, where he is more unrestrained than he is here.

Eating and drinking
--People are seen eating and/or drinking 5 more times in the 2nd half of the film.
--If the people in the nightclub are drinking champagne, then they are using the wrong glassware. It is only, when they are in the car, that they are using the right glassware to drink champagne.

Motifs
--the sea
--stockings

Sir Arnold Bax
--has Ken ever made a film about a composer, where the composer is happy?
--Yet, seemingly the unhappiness of Bax works better here, than if he had been portrayed as being happier.
--I hope that Bax was in better physical condition than Ken, if and when he did his interpretive dance on the beach, I kept waiting for Ken to have some sort of physical attack.

Sir Alec Guinness
--no wonder his picture, as Fagin in Oliver Twist, is so prominently displayed in the film here. Bax wrote the music for the film. While I have seen the film, unlike an Elmer Bernstein or a John Williams, whose film music is memorable, I can remember nothing about Bax's music in the film.

Next time: Ken's Treasure Island
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: The Secret Life of Arnold Bax
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on February 04, 2019, 09:02:10 PM »
Ken Russell
--good actor = good director. I was thinking of John Huston, but, the same thing could be said for Ken Russell.
--though, he does not look like Arnold Bax.
--I think this is the most time, he has spent in front of the camera.

Alec Guinness
--that photo you see of Alec Guiness in the film is him portraying Fagin in the 1948 version of Oliver Twist.
--I don't know how it was in 1948, but that portrayal has become somewhat controversial now, as it is regarded as being somewhat anti-semitic.

Glenda Jackson
--yes, that is Glenda Jackson at the start of the film.
--I should have recognized her sooner than I did.
--while she has since appeared on stage, this is her last film appearance.

Maurice Bush
--I knew that doorman looked familiar.
--while he had done more TV, than films, I have seen some of his work on TV.
--though, his most familiar role is in Star Wars : Episode V, where he plays one of the bounty hunters in the film.
--though, the character is more memorable than the actor's portrayal of him.
--this was also his last film role.

Sally Rand
--the Rand is quicker than the eye.
--I could never understand the appeal of fan dancing. Not then. Not now.
--I just don't find it erotic.

Next time: part 2 (27:30)

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Beckett, Bond, Pinter discussion / Beckett's Footfalls and Play in London
« Last post by Iain Fisher on January 23, 2019, 01:44:02 AM »
Jack Theatre present a Beckett double bill of the Angel Theatre Company's Footfalls and Play.  They are on from 26 Feb- 9 Mar 2019.

"A ghostly figure paces a bare strip of landing outside her dying mother’s room…
Three identical urns contain a man, his wife and his mistress…
In Footfalls and Play Beckett offers a bleak, yet tragicomic, view of human existence."

After the performances on 26 Feb and 7 Mar, the director John Patterson will host a Q & A for audiences members.

Details are here
http://brockleyjack.co.uk
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: classic widows
« Last post by Iain Fisher on January 20, 2019, 11:23:31 PM »
There was also a CD released, Ken Russel presents Classic Widows, which also helps raise the profile of the composers.
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Sarah Kane discussion / Blasted in London
« Last post by Iain Fisher on January 20, 2019, 11:16:01 PM »
RADA present Blasted in cooperation with Graeae Theatre Company.  The performance integrates spoken English and British Sign Language.

It is on from 6-16 Feb 2019.  More details soon.
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: classic widows
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on January 20, 2019, 08:29:25 PM »
Nothing that I heard, I particularly liked.

He has the interest and more importantly, the influence, to bring this to the attention of the public, as this is something the public has most likely forgotten or never knew. Thus, this is most likely as important as any of his films.

Has there ever been a better love gift for a violinist than a violin concerto written specifically for that violinist. No never. Hardly ever.

Next time: more replies to another clip posted by Rosebud. Thank-you, Rosebud.
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