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Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: December 17, 2018, 07:52:22 PM »

Ken likes to fill his films with characters that have a sexual orientation besides heterosexual. His Lair of the White Worm is no different. What is different about his Lair of the White Worm is how murky some of the characters' sexual orientations are, and it does not clarify matters, when being bitten by the White Worm apparently changes a character's sexual orientation.

Murky (unclear)
Mrs. Trent

Known (clear)
Except for Sylvia, who is apparently bisexual, all of these should be considered to be heterosexual.
Mr. Trent

Though, it is possible that Eve is an asexual.


Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: December 12, 2018, 10:08:57 PM »

Le Repaire du Ver Blanc

Eve (Catherine Oxenberg)
1. Not only is Sylvia doubled by a stunt double in the scene set in in the cave with the white worm, but so is Eve.

Angus (Peter Capaldi)
1. Angus' playing the bagpipes while wandering around inside Temple House speaks to Ken's skill as both a cinematographer and director, as the scene was shot in only one take.

2. One benefit of being bitten is apparently one does not need glasses after being bitten. Angus is wearing glasses ere he is bitten, but not afterwards. Actually, except for Peters, he is the only one in the film to be seen wearing glasses.

3. How did he get back so quickly to Mercy Farm? We know that James drove back in his car, but how did Angus get back at the same time as James?

1. Eat and drink. Two times people are seen eating and/or drinking. With the 10 previous times, that is a dozen times people are seen eating/and or drinking in the film.

2. Where is the smoke coming from at Temple House? There is no obvious source of anything flammable in the concluding scene at Temple House.

Next time: concluding with sexual orientation
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:17:45 PM »

Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
(the minutes are off, but this reply will take from the last reply to the end of the film.)

Sylvia (Amanda Donohoe)
1. Hairy underarms are apparently more popular in the U. K., then they are here in the U.S.

2. She's dead. She's alive. She's dead. She's alive. She's dead. She's alive.
She's dead. She fell to her death. She's alive. She was swallowed by the white worm.
She's dead. She was swallowed by the white worm. She's alive. It was killed by a hand grenade.
She's dead. She was killed by a hand grenade. She's alive. Being swallowed by the white worm protected her from the hand grenade.
If she stopped the loss of blood from her severed hand, then it is possible that she is still alive.

Kevin (Chris Pitt)
1. He's not only merely dead, he's really most sincerely dead. But, as it appears that it takes almost year for the white worm to digest what it swallows, and since he was swallowed much less than an year ago, it is possible that there is enough of him remaining in the white worm--undigested--that his body can be identified as a victim of Sylvia and the white worm.

James (Hugh Grant)
1. I have actually thought the scene with him on the plane, watching the two stewardesses wrestle, while holding a pen in his lap, is actually restrained. If it was less restrained, the scene would have the pen spouting ink.

2. While this may not be that common, this is not the 1st time I have seen this in an English work of fiction. When a gay man in England, wants to see whether another man is interested, he'll brush his hand across the other man's knee. And then the other man will respond in a way to show that he is interested or not interested. Thus, when both he and Angus are in the car, and he brushes his hand across Angus' knee, is James showing an interest in Angus? Has he always been interested in Angus, or is his interest a recent thing? Or, is his brushing his hand across Angus' knee, not deliberate, but accidental?

3. He smokes at the end of the film. I think this is the 1st time that we see him smoke. Actually, I think this is the 1st time we see anybody in the film smoke.

Next time: Eve, Angus, and miscellaneous.
Posted by: Iain Fisher
« on: November 27, 2018, 09:53:27 PM »

"Which is why Lisztomania is such a disappointment, as of all this films to date that I have seen, I consider that to be the one with the worst acting."

I agree, a film I just don't like, but there are many sincere Ken fans who think it is one of the classics.
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: November 21, 2018, 05:24:12 PM »

Concluding . . .
Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
(minutes 76 - 90)

Erny (Paul Brooke)
a. Would he really, when he tripped o'er Angus' bagpipes and fell backward, have hit the sundial with enough force to penetrate his skull, which is one of the hardest bones in the body, and then caused the loss of his eye?

b. Acting
Really, if one looks at the scene, one sees what a good actor he can be. If he was any less of an actor, the scene of him being charmed by Angus playing the bagpipes, would be even more ridiculous than it already is.

Angus (Peter Capaldi)
a. Maybe it is possible, but seemingly note that he dials only a 5-digit number on the phone at Temple House to reach D'Ampton Manor.

Ken (director)
a. He often bumps up against absurdity in the film, but, he is such a good director and writer (IMHO) he seldom crosses the line o'er into absurdity territory.

Next time: Le Repaire du Ver Blanc (minutes 91 - finis)
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: November 15, 2018, 07:45:08 PM »

Continuing . . .
Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
(minutes 76 - 90)

Sylvia (Amanda Donohoe)
a. Why did she not see Angus and Mary, when she was called out from Temple House to D'Ampton Manor by the snake charming music? She was not that far away from them, when she left Temple House. Of course, maybe she was so hypnotized by the music, that she could only concentrate on the music, like snakes,  when they are--supposedly--charmed by music.

Mary (Sammi Davis)
a. Touch

Here we have an hallucination brought on by being bitten. Unlike Eve's whose hallucinations are brought upon by touching and being sprayed by snake venom.

b. Her being bitten is actually one of the 1st times, in a film, that we see one woman being bitten by another woman.

c. Why does she run to where she does? She runs away from Erny, then she runs back toward Erny, and then she runs into a place, where she can be trapped by Erny.

James (Hugh Grant)
a. How proverbial English? Note that he has a dart board in his home.

To be continued . . .

Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: November 07, 2018, 05:34:45 PM »

Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
(minutes 76-90)

D'Ampton Manor
a. The one with the up to date electronics: the computer, the cell phone. Now compare this with the more primitive rotary phones at Mercy Farm and Temple House.

Mercy Farm
a. Note the deer antler coatrack and hat rack. Who's the hunter in the family? Probably the missing father of the 2 girls: Eve and Mary.

Temple House
a. Who or what controls the gate at the entrance to Temple House? When Sylvia pulls up, with Kevin, in her car, one can presume that there is a device in the car, that when operated, opens and closes the gates, but, when Mary runs toward the gates, and they close on her, there is nothing or no one to be seen near the gates.

To be continued . . .

Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: October 31, 2018, 09:55:15 PM »

Continuing . . .
Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
Minutes 47-60

James (Hugh Grant)
a. While not in full uniform, he is still wearing military attire, if less formal. One wonders if he is still in the RAF and only taking time off to settle his family's affair, now that his father, who was the lord of the manor, is now apparently deceased.

Eve (Catherine Oxenberg)
a. Hallucination by . . .

Eve's hallucinations would come by touching and being sprayed by venom. It is Mary (Sammi Davis) whose hallucination would come by being bitten, which we'll get to later.

Eat and drink
a. Once with the previous 10 times, we now up to 11 times that people are seen eating and/or drinking in the film.

D'Ampton Manor
a. On the wall in the music room, another panting. We'll see if we can get a better look at it, later in the film.

Next time: Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
(minutes 61-75)
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: October 27, 2018, 07:29:40 PM »

Le Repaire du Ver Blanc
Minutes 47-60

Sylvia (Amanda Donohoe)
a. Tree
How did she ever manage to climb up into that three with those high heel boots she is wearing?

b. Tanning bed
She lazes around in a coffin like tanning bed, which reinforces her vampire like qualities.

c. Earrings
Don't spare the earrings. This is--at least--the 3rd pair, all different, that she wears in the film, so far.

d. Liquors
On top of the bar at Temple House. Can't get good enough look at them to tell whether they are premium brands or not. Though, even with a better look, probably couldn't tell anyway..

e. Snake basket
She sleeps in a snake basket at night, which reinforces her snake like qualities.

Stone Rigg Cavern
a. Better known as Thor's Cave in real life.

b. Dress warmly
Actually, unless one is shooting a film in it, having been there several times, while it is chilly, it is not as cold as depicted in the film.

c. Graffiti
Of course, that was added for the film, then removed once the shooting for that scene in the film was over. So if one goes today, one won't find it.

d. View
The film just touches on what a tremendous view there is from the entrance of the cavern or cave. One can seemingly see for miles. And as the entrance is hard to reach and thus is easily defensible. No wonder it has been inhabited for thousands of years.

Peters (Stratford Johns)
a. Note James' (Hugh Grant's) reaction to Peters. Grant's reaction is such to Johns' over the top performance as Peters, one has to wonder whether it was unplanned for in the script and just a serendipity moment caught on film.

Mercy Farm
a. Painting
The painting in the dining area of Mercy Farm. Apparently, a pastoral scene. Thus, symbolic of something else, like so much of the art in the film, or non-symbolic.

To be continued. . .

Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: October 22, 2018, 07:21:41 PM »


9. Newspaper
One may need a still screen grab to see it, but the newspaper that James is reading either on the plane or in his bedroom is dated Saturday, March 19. The only years that match that date are 1966, 1977, 1983, 1984, and 1988. As James is driving a 1984 model Morgan, it could not be any of those earlier dates. Thus, the film takes place in 1984 or 1988, and he bets it is 1988.

10. Photos
The photos on the chest of drawers in James' bedroom. What? When? Where? Who?

11. Tub
The tub in which Sylvia bathes Kevin, then drowns him, has been called a hot tub, but it is something that is much older than the typical hot tub. It is called a sunken tub, as it lies sunken into the floor or beneath the level of the floor, instead of being raised above the floor.

12. Work of art
There is a work of art that can be seen in the scenes with Sylvia and James at Temple House, and while it can be seen more clearly in her scenes with Kevin, as the works of art, in the film, are not always just works of art, but symbolic as well, I have always wondered what is the symbolism behind that work of art. Is that blood pouring from the holes in the work of art? If so, then it may symbolize the fact that Sylvia is a vampire-like creature who bites her victims for their blood.

And that is all for that.

Next time: Le Repaire du Ver Blanc (around 47 minutes to 60 minutes)
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: October 15, 2018, 08:34:41 PM »


5. Eat and drink
4 times so far + 6 previous times = 10 times we have people eating and drinking.

6. Fireplace
He just realized that's a gas log fireplace, but, it certainly burns whatever you toss into it.

7. Hard hats
Better safe than sorry, when spelunking. Wear a hard hat, but why is it only the men who are wearing them? Is that because the women in the film have harder heads?

8. Housecoat
"Where's the housecoat?" As Kevin steps out of the tub. "That's okay. I'll just wrap a towel around me."
One does not see any sign of the housecoat, that Kevin was wearing, earlier in the film, when he's in the tub.
And note that as the film progresses, Kevin gets more and more naked.
From scout uniform with hat and knapsack,
To scout uniform without hat and knapsack,
To housecoat, with Kevin probably naked underneath it,
To totally nudity, while he is in the tub.

To be continued . . .
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: October 04, 2018, 10:13:32 PM »

1. Bed site light next to James' bed. Note that it is in the shape of a sexual object.

2. Bust in the hallway. It is not that of the Rebel Roman Emperor. It is probably that of the 1st Roman Emperor Augustus Caesar.

3. Candles. How many times does the power go out at D'ampton Manor? Not only a bed site light by James' bed, but also candles. Or, is James a belt and braces man?

4. Earrings. Sylvia, when in James' dream sequence on the plane, changes her earrings from what she was wearing to something more similar to what Eve and Mary are wearing.

To be continued . . .
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: September 25, 2018, 05:29:53 PM »

Eve and Mary, Amanda and Ken

Eve and Mary
1. He has always been confused in the scene where both Eve and Mary are flight attendant--till now. Mary is the 1st one seen wearing a flight attendant uniform, and then we have Eve in a flight attendant uniform.

Amanda and Ken
1. Even with the sound muted, Amanda turns in a tour de force performance as Sylvia in the film, especially in her scenes with James.
2. Which shows that Ken can get a performance out of the unlikeliest actors, such as Amanda. Which is why Lisztomania is such a disappointment, as of all this films to date that I have seen, I consider that to be the one with the worst acting.

As a side note . . .
The scene with Lady Proxima, the Grandalid, in Solo : a Star Wars Story is inspired in part by both the book and the film "Lair of the White Worm."

Next time: a miscellany of observations.
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: September 22, 2018, 06:37:05 PM »

We have found another full length version of Lair of the White Worm on the internet. It is Le Repaire du Ver Blanc, and while it is in French, we are interested in the visual aspects of the film, which are the same as the English version, so that it does not manner that it is in French.

What these will cover is from 30 minutes into the film or about one third of the way thru to about 46 minutes into the film or about half way thru.

1. Note that ere she kisses James, her tongue makes a flickering motion like a snake does.

1. All the locals must eat a lot of carrots, as he is the only one who lives in the area that is seen to be wearing glasses and then not all the time, and as for the style of glasses, he wears, they are called pince nez.

1. Has he ever received a better kiss on-screen or off? Having seen most of the actor's appearances on film and on TV, not on-screen. Though, there are some actresses who will not kiss such an young co-star, as they consider it to be perverse.
2. Viewers have noted that he closes his eyes, when Sylvia pushes his head under the bathwater with her foot, which should be impossible now that she has bitten and paralyzed him with her bite, but, there is a moment ere this that should also be impossible. Note that in this moment, his eyes move upward and to the right, as if he is looking at something, which should also be impossible, now that she has bitten and paralyzed him with her bite.

1. No question as to why he is wearing a RAF uniform in the film, as that is an in-joke from the director, who was in the RAF. The question is why he is wearing it in that scene, when he 1st meets Sylvia at Temple House? Just coming back from a RAF reunion?
2. When he enters the painting at D'Ampton Manor in his dream, note that he looks back to where he was sleeping, but he has disappeared from the bed, where he was sleeping.

Next time: Eve and Mary, Amanda and Ken
Posted by: BoyScoutKevin
« on: September 08, 2018, 07:22:50 PM »

20. Accents
Sylvia (posh)
Peters (unknown)
Mary (local)
Kevin (London)
James (posh)
Eve (local)
Erny (unknown)
Angus (Scottish)

And that's that from Uncle Scary. We are now about a half hour into the film or one third of the film. We'll have to see whether we can find another copy of the film on the internet, so we can continue to mute the sound and  concentrate on the film's visuals.