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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Ranker or Him
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on November 11, 2017, 09:20:45 PM »
Ken's worst. Here and there (Ranker.com)

Here
5. Valentino
4. Gothic
3. Mindbender
2. Lisztomania
1. Whore

There
5. Salome's Last Dance
4. Aria
3. The Rainbow
2. French Dressing
1. Mindbender

For there, I excluded all his short films and his TV films.

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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Paul Sutton's "Talking About Ken Russell"
« Last post by peabody on October 26, 2017, 10:27:28 PM »
Received the book yesterday and I'm very, very impressed by it. It cost me 95 quid but it was definitely worth it. Don't know what to say, really... It's fantastic! Just been reading about "Song of Summer" and "The Boy Friend", two of my favourites by Ken, and the chapters about them were chock-full of interesting facts and great photos. Every fascinating anecdote I came across made me want to put the book down and re-watch the films right away. That's the highest praise I can give a book about film.

I'm ALMOST considering getting the latest, expanded version now...  :-[ :o
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Ranker or Him
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on October 25, 2017, 10:20:08 PM »
Ken's best. Here and there (Ranker.com)

Here
5. Savage Messiah
4. Tommy
3. The Music Lovers
2. Women in Love
1. The Devils

There (Ranker.com)
5. Mahler
4. Altered States
3. Tommy
2. Women in Love
1. The Devils

Next time: Ken's worst. both here and there (Ranker.com)
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Ranker or Him
« Last post by BoyScoutKevin on October 14, 2017, 06:29:42 PM »
Continuing . . .

31. Tales of Erotica
32. Clouds of Glory : Rime of the Ancient Mariner
33. In Search of the English Folk Song
34. Dog Boys
35. Clouds of Glory : William and Dorothy
36. Mindbender
37. Diva
38. Women and Men : Stories of Seduction

Next time: best of the best--here and there.
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Lisi Russell interview
« Last post by Iain Fisher on October 09, 2017, 11:48:55 PM »
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For anyone's interest, John Clague's amateur 16mm colour newsreel film that had been showing on muted loop at Herne Bay Museum in 2014 as part of the French Dressing at 50 exhibition has now gone to Screen Archive South East in Brighton, providing public access.

It shows Ken and the crew in production at Herne Bay in May - June 1963.

An online preview version complete with Mr Clague's original sound track on reel to reel tape is now viewable at http://screenarchive.brighton.ac.uk/detail/11761/ (the sequence begins at 05:29)

Aware of many other amateur cine films taken of the production unfolding in Herne Bay that once existed but it may unfortunately be that John's is the only surviving and the only in colour respectively. Thanks to Andrew Clague and Tim Jones at Canterbury Christ University for rescuing this archive and allowing public access for future generations.
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Ranker or Him
« Last post by Iain Fisher on October 07, 2017, 12:27:51 AM »
I would put Aria and Amelia much higher, and Billion Dollar Brain and Trapped Ashes much lower.

But as with all of Ken's work, everyone has their own favourites.
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Paul Sutton's "Talking About Ken Russell"
« Last post by Iain Fisher on October 07, 2017, 12:24:52 AM »
The text for both seems to be identical.

For the photos the standard edition has most the same, but in b&w.  A number of times a full page colour photo will be reproduced as a half page b&w photo, and some photos are missing.  But confusingly, the standard edition also has a few (very limited) photos not in the colour editions, for example on Gothic the standard edition has Ken beside a prop of a dead child which is not in the colour edition.

The colour edition is definitely better, given the visual aspects of Ken's films.  But it is half as expensive.

Bottom line, either is worth having.

Iain
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Savage Messiah: Ken Russell / Re: Paul Sutton's "Talking About Ken Russell"
« Last post by peabody on October 04, 2017, 09:26:35 AM »
Being a sad person I have both versions.

The text is more or less the same for the two editions.  The standard edition is 482 pages with b&w pictures.  The deluxe edition is 542 pages with a mixture of b&w and colour pictures.

The difference in the number of pages is due to fewer photos, and sometimes a page photo is given as half page, but the fewer photos does not hinder any of the text.

Given the early work was filmed in b&w the photos are b&w in both editions.  For later films like The Boyfriend the colour photos in the deluxe version are beautiful, though some of the photos are also b&w, presumably to save costs.  For Mahler the deluxe version has mainly b&w photos which is a bit disappointing.

On Amazon the deluxe edition is half as much more expensive than the standard edition.

Which to buy?  The standard edition is good and recommended.  The deluxe version has colour photos which complement the later works, and is also recommended.

Thanks for your reply, Iain! That's not being sad. That's a sign of awesomeness and having impeccable taste when it comes to the arts.

If I understand correctly, the latest, expanded book has additional text not found in the earlier editions?

Also, just making sure I understand correctly:

There are more photos in the deluxe edition? It's not just that the regular version has all of the photos found in the deluxe edition, but reproduced in black and white?
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